this webcomic is plagiarism 2 by plagiarism2. Forum: Outside.
user 2 posts 2008-04-28 00:54:31 |
Continuing the previous thread: "But really, the ideas are original," I don't think so. Yes, xkcd is way more smart, but the sciente/math theme is also present here. So you are telling me that someone else created another webcomic in which most of it is two stick figures (a boy and a girl, and by the way, the girl hair is very similar to xkcd) and some of them have math/science content/joke related and that is not an insulting plagiarism to xkcd? Oh yeah, GREAT ORIGINAL idea you got here. Never seen before. This webcomic is extremly similar to xkcd: the characters, the concent, the way of drawing, what is detailed (and in which way) and what is not. "stick figures are not exactly under copyright," Yes, they are not. However, if I had set myself to randomly draw stick figures without seeing xkcd before, I would certainly NOT draw them in exact same way. There are plenty of other ORIGINAL comics in the web that use stick/stick-like figures (to name two: Russell's Teapot and Explosm.net) and they **DON'T** LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME TO XKCD. "and I am ashamed that someone as hateful as you reads such an awesome comic as xkcd." hateful? Well, perhaps I'm angry about THIS webcomic but is this feeling completely out of place? How would you feel if some artist without any label or marketing composed his own songs playing a very peculiar instrument (and not a popular one) and you enjoyed it for a while; and then two years later someone else puts up a webpage with the same concept? Playing the same type of songs (but just less smart), the same ununsual instrument, perhaps even putting up some 'video clips' shooted in very similar places. I'm sure you would stood up and said "Wait a minute. That is plagiarism!". Perhaps you would not say it in a public forum, but you would certainly think of it. What is really shameful here is this webcomic and not my feeling of anger against this shallow plagiarism. "In summary, if you don't like it, don't read it, but get lost." I don't like it, and I don't read it. That doesn't stop me from pointing out how insulting this webcomic is. But I will certainly get lost. No one reads this anyway, is not that it poses a serious threat to the authenticity of xkcd. |
user 2 posts 2008-04-28 00:57:21 |
*I'm sure you would stand up and say |
administrator 467 posts 2008-04-28 02:36:51 |
The best counter I have to repeated accusations of "plagiarism" and that I am overly similar to xkcd and that I am doing something offensive and wrong is that I have spoken to Randall Munroe on numerous occasions, he's mentioned that my comic is one of the better ones he's seen, and he linked me on wetriffs.com. These things lead me to believe that Randall Munroe neither dislikes my comic nor believes I am plagiarizing him, and I would have to consider him the authority on this matter. |
user 326 posts 2008-04-28 13:40:51 |
It must be so easy to throw accusations and walk away. I guess that kind of assault is one of the pains of having a peer as successful as Randall. Also, plagiarism does not apply, and the music analogy leads me to think of a different word: genre. Maybe Decorum is of the same genre as xkcd; maybe that's why I read them both. |
user 5 posts 2008-04-29 08:48:46 |
You know what else is outrageous plagiarism? Shakespeare. I mean, the basic themes and styles are more or less identical to classic Greek stuff. Oh, oh, oh, and Hollywood movies are plagiarism for the same reason. Really, this so-called criticism is stupid and idiotic. And moronic. Plagiarism is when you use someone else's words without attribution. Merely operating in a similar style, and even being influenced by existing work, is called creativity. 'Cause there isn't a whole lot in the entire world that is of entirely new cloth. Stupid, self-important, pseudo-intellectual, angry people. May they all DIAF. Or at least this one. Don't let the slime molds get you down, Darcey -- you do good work, and I hope you can see that baseless criticism from some 13 year old using his mom's AOL account is a sign of that. |
administrator 328 posts 2008-04-29 18:47:30 |
Kickban FTW? Also, I don't understand why he's complaining about having more xkcd-like comics. The whole plagiarism issue (asinine as it is) aside, clearly you're not just redrawing xkcd comics, you're writing your own content. That's just like having more xkcd. So, wtf is the problem? |
user 9 posts 2008-04-30 17:24:43 |
dude is an asshat, banbanban |
user 2 posts 2008-04-30 17:42:02 |
There is space for more than one webcomic of science and stick figures. We should hope that more will pop out instead of battling them. And don't tell me that every song you hear on the radio sounds truely different. It's something you can call inspiration. And in this case, the influence of xkcd is, at most, disputatious and far from obvious. From a personal point of void, I think xkcd's style is still unique and not reminiscent of Decorum's at all. I was not reminded of xkcd a single time while reading Decorum's comics. And apart from that: It's just wasted energy to get worked up about such a thing. Even if there was truth in what you said, it's just nothing to get angry about. You could rather be spending your time doing things you enjoy (in a good way :)), or, let's say, start a webcomic! |
user 94 posts 2008-05-02 07:46:16 |
Ahhh, troll! RUN AWAY!! (maybe we should get a "Please do not feed the trolls." banner on here somewhere...) (haha, geddit? 'banner' ... 'ban hammer'. Lol, I'm so witty =P ) I would laugh if he posted this on XKCD's forum and was personally smacked down by Randall... Anyway, Decorum is nothing like XKCD. (Apart from the lack of artistic merit ;) ) However, if I had set myself to randomly draw stick figures without seeing xkcd before, I would certainly NOT draw them in exact same way. O Rly? How many different ways, pray tell, are there of drawing stick figures? No one reads this anyway, is not that it poses a serious threat to the authenticity of xkcd. Hahahahaha. XD How does this pose any sort of threat to xkcd. The two comics aren't mutually exclusive. Darcey and Randall aren't competing for page views. wtfh have you been taking, boy? |
user 94 posts 2008-05-02 07:47:50 |
crud, typos... That's the longest post I've made here. =P |
user 89 posts 2008-05-03 01:38:26 |
I like Aco's response. Oh, and if you want to get REALLY offended, go to MY webcomic. I almost blatantly point out how it's like xkcd but worse. What you're really talking about here would be copyright and they are both (or all three, if you include my comic) different enough from each other to give the respective authors valid claim. Just because you read this (or my comic) doesn't mean that you can't read xkcd so it really doesn't matter at all. If you pull this shit again I will personally start a crusade to haunt you throughout the internet until you have been exorcised out. You are a stain on creative thinkers' fanbases. |
user 437 posts 2008-05-08 10:14:42 |
/me facepalms The best thing to do in cases like this is delete the threads and the users existence. And IP block, after giving me said IP so I can go beat the stupid out of them (OMFG, I think I just used a phrase from zero punctuation! Plagiarism!). |
user 3 posts 2008-05-26 06:48:42 |
However, if I had set myself to randomly draw stick figures without seeing xkcd before, I would certainly NOT draw them in exact same way. I'd just like to point out that it's nigh impossible to randomly draw anything with the goal of not copying the style of something you purport to having not seen. Also, yeah, they're stick figures. Being the base line of simplistic human representation it's hard to argue that everyone should have their own style. You could use the same argument to accuse Randall of plagiarizing some guy named Thog from the dawn of humanity. |
user 326 posts 2011-03-01 08:50:49 |
And if she were really plagiarizing, wouldn't she still be drawing them, instead of abandoning this for something as mundane as a college education?! THREADNOMANCY!!!!!!!! |